tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4592230822295048656.post2703575946253225488..comments2023-12-29T03:23:58.600-06:00Comments on dwarven battle medic: This Week In Raiding: The Next Logical Step?Fannonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17113088072985141570noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4592230822295048656.post-19486899025219258032011-09-16T04:33:16.383-05:002011-09-16T04:33:16.383-05:00Really, really interesting question.
Especially f...Really, really interesting question.<br /><br />Especially for a raid leader who is progressing, with his guild, through regular content.<br /><br />I feel that it would be good to give it a taster now and then, if the guild isn't sure, and work in to HMs gradually, if that is the desire of the guild of course.<br /><br />It's a big one,<br /><br />- JaminJaminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01933819665446187419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4592230822295048656.post-81690535265671463952011-09-14T16:00:51.962-05:002011-09-14T16:00:51.962-05:00I don't think I comment here very often, but I...I don't think I comment here very often, but I enjoy reading your blog.<br /><br />First, I wanted to congratulate you and your team on sticking together and progressing as far as you have.<br /><br />Normally, the hairs on the back of my neck stick up when people start talking about whether or not they have the *time* for heroic mode raiding. As one of the previous commenters mentioned, it isn't really a matter of time, there are plenty of 6/7H guild out there that raid less than 10 hours a week, some as few as 6-8 hours. It is a question of tenacity and interest though. A consistent group that doesn't mind a whole lot of wiping. <br /><br />I've been keeping track of a silly number of statistics of our raiding this expansion and can share a few numbers with you that might of interest:<br /><br />For Tier 12:<br /><br />~55% of our raid time is spent in combat<br />~45% of our raid time has been spent in combat with a boss (which means only 10% of our raids has been spent on trash)<br />~70% of our raid time each week is spent on "progression" (6-7 of our 9 hour raid week is spent wiping over and over)<br /><br />Boss Attempts:<br />225 "attempts" which includes 52 kills on normal mode<br />252 "attempts" which includes 19 kills on heroic<br /><br />The above clearly shows the difference between how much time we put into heroic attempts each week.<br /><br /># of attempts for our first kill of each boss:<br />(these should be taken with a grain of salt, lots of factors are at play here)<br />Shannox N: 6<br />Shannox H: 28<br />Alysrazor N: 27<br />Alysrazor H: 48<br />Ryolith N: 26<br />Ryolith H: 4 (yes, 4 attempts for heroic)<br />Beth'Tilac N: 4<br />Beth'Tilac H: 33<br />Baleroc N: 9<br />Baleroc H: N/A<br />Staghelm N: 5<br />Staghelm H: 57 (though to be fair, we made a massive shift in strategy and killed it 8 attempts later)<br /><br />Ragnaros N: 43<br />Ragnaros H: N/A<br /><br /><br /><br />(Sorry for the wall of text, hopefully it is of some kind of help)<br />I think it sounds like you have a strong grasp on the basic question, which is whether or not your raid team feels like they would enjoy the shift in "style" from normal modes to heroics.<br /><br />I've been around more casual groups in the past that just didn't weather the frustrations of wiping to a new boss for 2/3rds of their raid time each week. Its a completely valid approach to raiding and the fun of just getting to hang out with each other on familiar fights for a couple of months while people get some alts geared up as well has a definite appeal. Best of luck finding a good balance for your group!Gaiahttp://10manraiding.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4592230822295048656.post-81016935920558529772011-09-14T05:00:52.249-05:002011-09-14T05:00:52.249-05:00"I will pose that question to the group after..."I will pose that question to the group after we kill Rag. I am here to service the guild, not tell them what to do and when to do it, so I will leave it entirely up to them."- Mylindara<br /><br />Seriously, I hope she is an officer in Mountain Top. To say that at the peak of current tier raiding on Normal Modes for a raiding guild is impressive.<br /><br />I ran raids fairly regularly back in WTLK days in ICC and I even got my feet wet in both BOT & BWD earlier this summer. Sometimes I wish I could wade into battle once more with a strong 10man team as my feather self, or alter-ego plate wearing paladin. I think it is awesome that you all have worked towards and achieved something most guilds hit the wall on. Going froma casual guild and rocking out in raid content without falling apart and hopefully still keeping the casual atmosphere of fun.<br /><br />Starting in January the Mrs. Paladin and me are thinking of starting up a second account and a brand new realm and place to play with two new toons together. Might have to think about Sargeras as a realm.<br /><br />Keep up the great work, either alting through normal modes or stepping it up to Heroics.Draccushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08383252960187597250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4592230822295048656.post-18240853212479305872011-09-13T15:35:26.363-05:002011-09-13T15:35:26.363-05:00The time commitment doesn't have to be a huge ...The time commitment doesn't have to be a huge thing. What ends up mattering is the whole team being able to play at the same time for most, if not all, sessions. Consistency, practice, and focus matter - whether you're hard mode raiding for 1 night or 5 nights per week.<br /><br />Other items to consider: Tier 11 heroic modes can be a lot of fun. Tier 12 heroic modes are likely to see a nerf in a couple weeks which could make them accessible to your team.<br /><br />For a casual raid team capable of clearing all normal modes, I think you guys would find a lot of enjoyment in hard modes - even if you have to wait for some nerfs or over-gearing get there. While some hard modes are rather lame (Chimaeron), others have the mechanics to remain interesting for the whole expansion (like V&T, Magmaw, and Conclave).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4592230822295048656.post-82324581412426354152011-09-13T12:50:45.261-05:002011-09-13T12:50:45.261-05:00Nice stuff man. As I have been there and have see...Nice stuff man. As I have been there and have seen your play, you have the talent it takes to do these fights and progress further. But as you said, I'm not sure that everyone else is down for it.<br /><br />I will pose that question to the group after we kill Rag. I am here to service the guild, not tell them what to do and when to do it, so I will leave it entirely up to them. If we wish to progress further, then we shall. If they want to just clear farm, then that's fine too. We shall just see.<br /><br />But for now, you keep writing, and get ready for Rag this week! :DMylindarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16271815086885311337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4592230822295048656.post-82213336021576476232011-09-13T12:00:36.774-05:002011-09-13T12:00:36.774-05:00It actually becomes more about managing time than ...It actually becomes more about managing time than anything else. You want to spend some time on the Heroic boss, but you still want to leave enough time in your schedule to get down the rest of the instance.Rohanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09090769681887119989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4592230822295048656.post-76730157493328970252011-09-13T11:36:01.266-05:002011-09-13T11:36:01.266-05:00I think we can most definitely get AT LEAST Shanno...I think we can most definitely get AT LEAST Shannox and Bethtilac heroic modes down. Maybe Baleroc too, or Admiral McStompyPants. With the nerfs incoming to Firelands (normal and heroic) I'm sure we can still make some nice progression.<br /><br />Once the Firelord is dead, of course.Bloody Gneishahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17207875313559543564noreply@blogger.com